We're joined by Wowhead.com Community Manager Rhea Monique for another round of our Gaming Exchange Program. This time, Tim endured Team Fortress 2 while Richard suffered through World of Warcraft. You'll never guess the results! Plus, our take on The Death of Middle Class Gaming, and the coach from the Major League movies takes over Tim's hosting duties. Featuring Mike Bracken, Richard Naik, and (sort of) Tim Spaeth.

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Matt
Matt
12 years ago

Just an FYI to anyone who sees this, the following deal is currently on Amazon:

Enslaved for $14.99 on PS3, and $18.75 on Xbox 360 – brand new – and the game only came out six months ago!

And this is why I cannot bring myself to pay $60.00+ for a new game these days, except for that rare occasion.

crackajack
crackajack
12 years ago

thumbs up for inviting females.
nice to hear some other voices.

getting colds occasionally is also a refreshing idea.^^

just recently had that conversation:
“I can hardly understand you, the connection is terrible.”
“eh, that’s me, i’m having a cold.”

Trent Fingland
Trent Fingland
12 years ago

I think there’s more to the the difference between Tim and Rick’s attitude about online gaming than just something generational. Like Tim, I consider myself steadfastly relegated to the single-player sphere, and if any multiplayer happens its going to be strictly co-op. The lone exception was Metal Gear Online, which was a competitive shooter, but I found myself devoting hundreds of hours to it. There hasn’t been another competitive multiplayer game to captivate me in the same way since. I’m not sure if I can account for _why_ MGO had such a strong draw for me, but to me it… Read more »

RandomRob
RandomRob
12 years ago

no man, it was hilarious. You know you’re loved!

Richard Naik
Richard Naik
12 years ago

I didn’t know what she said until I listened to the show since I was so into my grand diatribe. I will go hang my head in shame now.

Bornie
Bornie
12 years ago

It has been funny listening about what you explained about games prices in the “quote of the week” section of the podcast. If had already realized that on Amazon(UK) the price of games drops after a month or so. In the other hand, we have my country: Spain. Although videogaming is nothing new over here (I started playing Pong almost 30 years ago, as many of you), there is still a huge gap between you and us, relating to how games are considered when it comes to apply reasonable prices to them. Just to let you know what is the… Read more »

RandomRob
RandomRob
12 years ago

I remember Carpenter’s comment of something to the effect of B-movies being the home of daring ideas because most often, big studios won’t risk challenging their audience too much… ‘Dark City’ is much bolder science fiction than ‘Avatar’, yes? It seems the same with games.. bigger studio, bigger budget = prettier visuals and more generic, standardized gameplay; FF XII, which was awarded mostly 8s and 9s by the corporate game world and called a ‘great’ game. But to me, FF XIII IS Avatar. Both are beautiful and flat as pancakes for deeper themes and subtexts, and therefore crap BECAUSE of… Read more »

Overquill
Overquill
12 years ago

Just finishing up listening to the podcast and I find myself very much in Tim’s arena in where I see no distinct value in killing strangers – jerks or otherwise. But that’s also my attitude in competitive sports (I play tennis mainly), in where I go out for the fun, but my mind shuts off the moment my opposition gets too competitive, and the game ceases to be fun. I don’t identify winning and a great kill score as something I should point to and say “look how great I am”. I play all games for the fun of it,… Read more »

Mike Bracken
Mike Bracken
12 years ago

I have to disagree on the idea of the distinction between A and B games existing in our heads. If we take the film comparison as an example, A movies are big budget studio films that spend 20 million bucks on a leading actor and have a higher catering budget than the entire cost of making the average B film. A films get huge numbers of the best technical people doing very specified things. B movies often get one guy trying to do three jobs to keep the project going. I don’t doubt for a second that guys working on… Read more »

aHei
aHei
12 years ago

To Richard and Rhea: based on everything you said about TF2. I would highly recommend trying the game Heroes of Newerth, which seems to have many of the similar qualities TF2 has.

Chris Cziborr
Chris Cziborr
12 years ago

Agree with the comments so far about pricing. It’s not like the less-than-AAA releases can’t make some money by dropping prices. PC games for years have been $10 less than the console counterpart versions.

One of the better regarded sub-AAA games of last year, Deadly Premonition, did well in terms of sales with a $20 price tag plus that Amazon.com sale. It had a small development team so costs I assume weren’t very high. And they still managed to come up with a very inventive game.

– Chris

RandomRob
RandomRob
12 years ago

Rhea pwned Richard. Hotness of the week. Personal quibble: If you’re going to talk about B movies and B games and put Singularity in that category out of some ‘not good enough to be enjoyable because it wasn’t a better game’ stance- then I strongly suggest you watch TIMECOP with Jean Claude Van Damme, then make a serious attempt at pretending you ARE John Claude Van Damme, and try playing it again. You will enjoy yourself and the whole experience will make a lot more sense. Seriously, I think Rhea was right on this one. The distinction of B game… Read more »