While Tim takes some time off to enjoy his new son, we present our very first bonus episode! In these deleted scenes from Episode 14, you'll hear a great segment on how casual games relate to Heather Chaplin’s GDC rant, and then we try to answer that classic gaming question “What is the Citizen Kane of Video Games?” Our answers will shock and amaze you. Featuring Chi Kong Lui, Mike Bracken, David Stone, and the very sleepy Tim Spaeth.

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shun
13 years ago

[quote=Chi Kong Lui][quote=shun]Please tell me I thought wrong. I’d like to think that women who are into gaming are just as hungry for the complexities offered in the non-casual gaming market as men are.[/quote] I’m not sure what gave you that impression since the whole thing starts with Dave talking about how much his wife enjoys Gears of War 2 on Insane Mode and I talked about how I twittered with a woman who was a enjoyed playing Onechanbara. [/quote] I haven’t listened to the podcast for 2 days since, so my memory may be a bit hazy at this… Read more »

Chi Kong Lui
Chi Kong Lui
13 years ago

[quote=shun]Please tell me I thought wrong. I’d like to think that women who are into gaming are just as hungry for the complexities offered in the non-casual gaming market as men are.[/quote] I’m not sure what gave you that impression since the whole thing starts with Dave talking about how much his wife enjoys Gears of War 2 on Insane Mode and I talked about how I twittered with a woman who was a enjoyed playing Onechanbara.

shun
13 years ago

There’s one thing about your refutation of Heather Chaplin’s tirade that bothers me, and it’s in the part where you guys said that there are casual gaming segment in the market that she’s ignoring. The issue I have with this is that it seems you are dichotomizing “hardcore” and “casual” games as exclusives for “male” and “female”, respectively. That is, “casual games” are the kind women want.

Please tell me I thought wrong. I’d like to think that women who are into gaming are just as hungry for the complexities offered in the non-casual gaming market as men are.

David Stone
David Stone
13 years ago

I pondered that game too – it’s one of my favourites of all time, and I replay it WAAAAYYY too much. But I had to dock it for the voice acting and horrible “plotting.” I know, there had to be something driving the game forward, but it’s not “flawless” like Citizen Kane.

That was a big part of the discussion, separating the wheat and chaff of gaming. As you heard, it’s really hard to even determine what that exactly is.

Anonymous
Anonymous
13 years ago

The assumption in this discussion is that electronic gaming is the only form of gaming, when in fact games have been around much, much longer. So the question I have is not what is the Citizen Kane of gaming, but what is the Go of film? In a few thousand years and I seriously doubt anyone will even know what Citizen Kane was. Pretty sure people will still be playing Chess and Go however.

But as far as single-player electronic games go, my vote for the paragon of medium would be SotC.