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Finished up my play of Dead Rising 2 tonight. I'm contemplating doing a review, but still undecided. I guess I'll sleep on it and see how much effort I want to put out in the morning.

After rolling credits for both the main campaign and the Overtime mode that comes after (and really, that's not a spoiler… they did the exact same thing in Dead Rising) my thoughts about the game are basically the same—it's a note-for-note reproduction of the original with a much gentler difficulty curve and a create-a-weapon mechanic that doesn't feel like a good fit for the schedule-oriented structure of play.

If I had never played the first game I suppose I would have been much more entertained by Dead Rising 2 since I wouldn't be so aware of how badly it was recycled.  Seriously, there were only two or three brief segments overall that I thought were fairly inspired, although I admit that the story was sufficient to keep me moving forward. New protag Chuck Greene is definitely okay in my book, though I have to say that I still prefer original hero Frank West by a large margin.

While I certainly appreciate how much easier Dead Rising 2 is (got the S-Rank ending with very little effort) I think I preferred the original in just about every other way. Better main character, better story, and although it felt vaguely broken in a few places, it was fresh and original at the time. This new iteration isn't bad, but it just doesn't have that spark… all the I's were dotted and all the T's crossed, but I'm still kind of struggling to figure out what it was really supposed to bring to the table.

All things considered, I'd say that I had a much better experience with the prologue DLC Dead Rising: Case Zero than I did with the full game offered in Dead Rising 2. The setting of Zero didn't feel like another mall, the area was much smaller and more compact, and I liked that a perfect run could be done in two hours or so, provided that the player did a few practice restarts beforehand. It was fresh, tidy, and got right to the point. The $5 price tag didn't hurt, either.

I'm still looking forward to the epilogue DLC titled Dead Rising: Case West for sure, but if Capcom was to greenlight a new Dead Rising 3, I'd say that they would have to retool the thing from top to bottom, re-think the structure completely and fix all of the issues before it would get my attention. If they go for just another minor-upgrade iteration like this one was, I'll pass.

Prior to starting Dead Rising 2, I put about two hours into Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. Those first few hours didn't leave a very good taste in my mouth, and I postponed it for the time being. However, my wife decided to give it a go, and she's pretty far into the adventure. I've been peeking over her shoulder and keeping tabs on the game, and although there are certain things about it that intrigue me, I see quite a bit that turns me off. As for her, she's plowing ahead like a trooper but has little good to say about it.

To those players who have already been through the game, I would love to get your opinions on it, whether you liked it or you didn't. Tell me what makes it good, or where it went wrong. The two schools of thought on the title appear to have a fairly large gulf between them, and if you've got an opinion, I want to hear it.

I wanna know!

Brad Gallaway

Brad Gallaway

Brad Gallaway has been gaming since the days when arcades were everywhere and the Atari 2600 was cutting edge. So, like... A while.

Currently, he's got about 42 minutes a night to play because adulting is a timesuck, but despite that, he's a happily married guy with two kids who both have better K/D ratios than he does.

Brad still loves Transformers, he's on Marvel Puzzle Quest when nobody at the office is looking, and his favorite game of all time is the first Mass Effect -- and he thought the trilogy's ending was Just Fine, Thanks.

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Brad Gallaway
5 years 10 months ago
Apologies for getting back to this thread so late. Got swamped with various things and before I knew it, a few days ago by. Anyway, thanks very much to everyone who commented on Castlevania. You’ve all given me a lot to chew on, and I do intend to go back and try it again after the holidays. Also, not until after Konami sees fit to issue a patch for the 360 version. I don’t know if you all saw it or not, but my wife just got zapped with a random glitch and she lost around twelve hours of progress.… Read more »
ZippyDSMlee
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5 years 10 months ago

It can be look at Bioshock, Oblivion or Fallout 3 lack of polish in design and balances leaves the game vaguely broken, if you care about gamepaly and such if not its all for the lulz(mindless enjoyment).

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Anonymous
5 years 10 months ago

I don’t think something can be “vaguely broken”…

Bruno
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5 years 10 months ago

I agree with what someone else already said: the first 2/3 chapters are forgettable, also because the character has very few abilities/moves.

If you persevere you’ll be rewarded with many diverse scenarios, some of which are really beautiful, and some truly epic boss battles. And you’ll discover that the combat system is actually deeper than GoW/Dante’s Inferno, with the various enemies and situations requiring different approaches to be defeated.

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it definitely is a game that needs some dedication (also thanks to the difficulty level) before being able to judge it.

ZippyDSMlee
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5 years 10 months ago
[quote=Nightdreamer][quote=Sakilla]What it isn’t is why half of the world hated FF XIII without even playing through the damn thing.[/quote] I would rather have kept the discussion to strictly be about LoS myself, but I don’t think “half the world” are being unreasonable for hating FF13 without playing through it, not when most agrees that it takes 25 hours before it gets good. No one is under any obligation to finish a game that has a very long rocky start. Not even reviewers of the game. Pretty sure even the author of this post agrees, and you can read him summing… Read more »
ZippyDSMlee
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5 years 10 months ago
[quote=Anonymous][quote=ZippyDSMlee]GOW1-2 still play better story wise they are about as equally weak monster wise CV has maybe twice as many. But all in all its still a basic action game, instead of taking CV in the action RPG direction they should be refining and polishing its like they went pre SOTN and are making level to level arcade grinders…. I am disappointed in LOD its another generic or shallow semi artsy big budget game like Dantes Inferno… or Bioshock…… [/quote] Personally, I’m sick to death of the Metroidvanias, as Konami took that horse and beat it till it was long… Read more »
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Nightdreamer
5 years 10 months ago
[quote=Sakilla]What it isn’t is why half of the world hated FF XIII without even playing through the damn thing.[/quote] I would rather have kept the discussion to strictly be about LoS myself, but I don’t think “half the world” are being unreasonable for hating FF13 without playing through it, not when most agrees that it takes 25 hours before it gets good. No one is under any obligation to finish a game that has a very long rocky start. Not even reviewers of the game. Pretty sure even the author of this post agrees, and you can read him summing… Read more »
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5 years 10 months ago
[quote=ZippyDSMlee]GOW1-2 still play better story wise they are about as equally weak monster wise CV has maybe twice as many. But all in all its still a basic action game, instead of taking CV in the action RPG direction they should be refining and polishing its like they went pre SOTN and are making level to level arcade grinders…. I am disappointed in LOD its another generic or shallow semi artsy big budget game like Dantes Inferno… or Bioshock…… [/quote] Personally, I’m sick to death of the Metroidvanias, as Konami took that horse and beat it till it was long… Read more »
ZippyDSMlee
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5 years 10 months ago
[quote=Sakilla]And no offense to God of War, but the amount of enemy types in Castlevania put every other action/adventure game to shame. And accusing the game of being a generic “God of War” or “DMC” just sounds like everyone decided the action/adventure genre is off limits for Castlevania. But copying Metroid was okay (although admittedly, that turned out brilliant).[/quote] GOW1-2 still play better story wise they are about as equally weak monster wise CV has maybe twice as many. But all in all its still a basic action game, instead of taking CV in the action RPG direction they should… Read more »
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Sakilla
5 years 10 months ago
…and talk up Castlevania one more time. Argue how I think it’s combat is deep and it’s story is pretty damn cool, even great at times. Jason Issac has a voice in the game. Blah blah blah. But I feel strongly about this game, so here we go. I disagree with some of the complaints I’ve been hearing: the beginning is too slow. Yes, every game starts with a boss fight in which you impale a Warg, followed by high speed horseback riding. Many games have 1/3rd of their game go from a town outside a giant castle and end… Read more »
ZippyDSMlee
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5 years 10 months ago
DR2 is DR1 with a tiny bit of new stuff and alot of odd stuff, I for one like weaopn building so even if its shallow I love it…other wise the game is a milker its void of anything worth the price of entrance IMO Onechanobara is better but not by much. What can I say about CV:LOD..its a load alright…. The er… more realistic western themes are ok the atmosphere is barely ok, but much like COD and LOI its not a CV game, its a generic QTE action(IE god of war) game thats wearing the rancid corpse of… Read more »
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alexb
5 years 10 months ago
I went into LoS really, really wanting to like it. The graphics are great, particularly the lighting and I’ve been wanting a proper 3D Castlevania in the old style for years. But while it looks like a AAA release, it never feels like one. The fighting is wooden and unsatisfying, the platforming and traversal are too slow and over-simplified, and the story and setting are just a hodge podge of God of War and Devil May Cry with very little taken from the Castlevania mythos itself. The game’s also too long by about a third. So many filler levels in… Read more »
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David Stone
5 years 10 months ago
Gee, Brad. Fish for me much? :p It’s a serviceable GoW clone, pure and simple. The abilities you gain as you progress do add a lot more dynamism to the gameplay. But the story gets plodding, the soundtrack not particularly memorable, and the boss battles not terribly original. The big plot “twist” is REALLY deus ex machina, and doesn’t even line up with the existing mythos they’re trying to add to. Add in some veyr stupid nerdy references (look online for the Portal reference about Aperture Science in the game) and it really detracts from the universe. It’s certainly better… Read more »
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abfackeln
5 years 10 months ago
I like Castlevania: Lords of Shadow as someone who enjoys the art in gaming. Castlevania has some of the best environments in any game and a lot of variety. From a gameplay stand point it is not very good. Functional, but it is a been-there-done-that game. Way too many gameplay cliches. Another thing that bothers me is that it gets goofy. The developers need to take a page from Demon’s Souls on how to create a creepy game. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is not really a bad game, but it could have been a lot better. It is a lot… Read more »
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broodwars
5 years 10 months ago
For me, the big draw to me was the world the developers had created. I really got into reading the notes from the Order Members and Patrick Stewart’s narration, and the game’s environments have great atmosphere. There’s just a nice mix of Western mythology, from Bram Stoker to fairy tales. As the game went on and the experience moved to within the Castle gates, I actually really enjoyed the puzzles (most of them, anyway)that start to appear in the second 1/3 (and onward) of the game and how the experience steadily starts feeling like an almost Bram Stoker take on… Read more »
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